Friday, April 13, 2012

New Jersey vs. New York?

We are a group of 5 adults traveling from Europe in September. We want to stay in New York for 8 nights as our girlfriends have never been to New York. I noticed that hotel prices have risen dramatically since the last time I was in New York. We are wondering if we should stay at Jersey City and get to Manhattan in some other way. There are a couple of hotels very close to both the Holland tunnel as well as PATH station.



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Since we are five adults I believe it would be cheaper to take a cab or rent a car and still save money on hotels.



My real question is if this plan seems reasonable? In addition, is it easy to get cabs for 5 people back and forth to Manhattan? How much would that cost?



Thanks for your recommendations and suggestions



New Jersey vs. New York?


I do understand what you are saying about the rates being almost double in manhattan compared to jersey city.If you do not mind traveling, I would consider it, the doubletree hotel.I would also suggest if you wanted to also look into Queens hotels, as well if you are willing to travel Queens is close to manhattan as well, and bus and subway.If you want to consider price and be closer to the city I would suggest the Holiday inn near LGA airport, or the marriot.The holiday inn is close to the subway.You could also try the Pan American hotel in queens which is 4 blocks from the subway as well.Best wishes.I would prefer to stay in Queens in my personal opinion, then stay in Jersey city.The choice is your call.I would still not count manhattan totally out, if you rent a suite in doubletree in manhattan you have to put in the price of a cab each day.You will be in for alot of opinion on this topic!LOL Best wishes!



New Jersey vs. New York?


Five adults will not fit in a standard taxi. From the Taxi and limosine website:



From Driver Rule 2-43a (in PDF):



The maximum amount of passengers allowed in a yellow taxicab by law is four (4) in a four (4) passenger taxicab or five (5) passengers in a five (5) passenger taxicab, except that an additional passenger must be accepted if such passenger is under the age of seven (7) and is held on the lap of an adult passenger seated in the rear.





You cannot count on getting a minivan cab. We are in the city frequently and have never had the luck of getting a minivan. Parking is very expensive in the city so rentlng a car is generally discouraged as public transportation is reliable and inexpensive. There are threads about visitors staying in Jersey City as long as the hotel you are considering is near the PATH trains.




There are very few cabs that can accomodate 5 people. Even a regular sedan (to rent) will be tight for 5 people with luggage so you%26#39;re talking about renting a minivan or SUV. The cost of that will be substantial and if you plan on using it to drive in and out of Manhattan you%26#39;ll also have to pay for parking. Most parking garages charge extra for a minivan/SUV.





The biggest inconvenience of staying outside Manhattan is not being able to rest, drop off packages, change clothes during the course of the day. If you plan on having a night life, staying outside Manhattan is not fun, especially with a car. You%26#39;ll need to make 2 roundtrips a day and someone will have to abstain from drinking to drive. If you were a family with kids and weren%26#39;t planning on doing much in the evening, imo this plan would make more sense.





Here%26#39;s what I%26#39;ve written before about staying outside the city, but it was mostly for Americans planning on driving to get here. In your case, with a group of 5, I%26#39;d look at apartment rentals or suite hotels or almost anything else (including hotels with shared bathrooms) before doing this.





If you find you just can%26#39;t afford a NYC room, options in New Jersey that I think make some sense



%26gt;In Jersey City, the Hyatt Regency and the Doubletree Club are right near the PATH train into Manhattan (like a subway). These are also 3* Priceline hotels listed in the NYC area airport section of Priceline and are regularly won for under $100/night. I don%26#39;t think either has free parking so check that.



%26gt;The Sheraton on the Hudson in Weekhawken, NJ is directly across from midtown Manhattan. M-F there%26#39;s a ferry right outside the door of the hotel($5/person per ride though, so $10/person for roundtrip). On weekends, you must take a shuttle bus from the hotel down the street to another ferry stop. There are also buses that run along Boulevard East into Port Authority bus terminal, but commuting by bus from New Jersey you are subject to traffic jams. This hotel is only good if the savings from NYC prices are big (not always the case) and there aren%26#39;t too many of you so daily ferry prices aren%26#39;t too bad.



%26gt;the Holiday Inn in Fort Lee, NJ also known as the George Washington Bridge location is evidently very inexpensive and very close to the bridge. BUT, staying here you should plan on driving your car into Manhattan over the bridge and parking for the day maybe on the upper west side. Iconparking.com will help you find a parking garage that%26#39;s affordable. There is bus service to/from the hotel but you have to cross a very busy highway getting back that sounds dangerous. This hotel is not really near anything but the GWBridge and is for people who want no amenities near their hotel.





Another poster, Broadwaynyc, prepared this list of NJ hotels and the transportation to/from them. Just keep in mind any place that requires bus or car is subject to the problems of TRAFFIC. The hotels say it%26#39;s 15 or 20 mins. but it can often take an hour in rush hour traffic.



http://www.broadwayfocus.com/nj_nyc/





There are some places in Queens that are ';ok'; and are near subway or bus connections. What airport are you flying into? If JFK, just keep in mind getting to/from JFK to go to New Jersey is AWFUL. Using Newark airport (EWR) is better.





So who are you? I mean ages and relation to each other.




Thanks everyone for your comments:



We are five adults, which means my mom, me and my wife, my brother and his wife.



We first arrive at Newark, and then take the train directly (or at least that%26#39;s our plan) to DC. After staying there for some days (8-9 days) we plan to come to visit New York. I have been to New York three times and others have been to NY between never to two times before. So we have seen many of the sights before and the ones who haven%26#39;t are afraid of heights! Some people just want to go shopping just like normal Americans to chain stores outside city center.



We don%26#39;t drink (health freaks) and don%26#39;t smoke. We are not poor (me and my brother are doctors) yet tripadvisor does not show any reasonable Manhattan hotel with satisfied customers for less than 370 dollars, and 370-250 =120 dollars per room per day which means 360 dollars per day for all of us which we can pay for transport. If we book at Holland Motor that means 270x3 =570 dolars per day!




If you%26#39;re staying near the PATH line in Jersey City, you really dont need to worry about cabs, other than getting to and from the airport to the hotel...





The PATH is very safe to take day and night.





You dont want the Holland Motor Lodge - its an ';hourly'; type of hotel next to the tunnel entrance and a bit of a walk to the PATH train.





If opting for a hotel in Queens, I would go with one of the ones on the 7 line - I think there%26#39;s a Best Western - not something near LaGuardia airport.





From JFK you can get to NJ by mass transit, but its a lengthy trip if you have significant luggage.




Hej!





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Hi Folks,





I used to live in NY and NJ and commuted on a daily basis from NJ to NYC.





If you can swing it - I really would avoid staying in NJ. You really won%26#39;t get the flavor for NYC, plus it can be a pain to get taxis to/from NJ. In addition, the Path train does not run all night (I think the last is at 1am) and it can be grossly overcrowded during peak hours.





It%26#39;s just not worth the hassle. Book into a moderately priced NYC hotel and enjoy your visit.




Part of the experience for me in visiting Manhattan is being part of the community. I usually stay for two weeks and become a part of the neighborhood I am staying in. Walk everywhere. Sometimes take the subway on a pass. Upper West and Upper East Side, close to Central Park. Good rates are offered by several hotels, check this site and then negotiate for best rates with the hotel of your choice directly.




New Jersey: A landmass conveniently created to speed New Yorkers to Philadelphia. No apparent redeeming characteristics.





New York City: The Center of the Universe. Cultural capital of the world. The only place 5 people traveling form Sweden should want to be.




Did you check online at Radio City Apartments. I booked a room back in December for next weekend and we are only paying $199.00 plus tax for the time we are staying. We are happy with this rate!





I checked into staying outside of the city for my birthday trip last December and we ended up paying the little bit extra to stay in the city just for convenience and to save on the time it would take us to go in and out of the city. I was afraid that once we got out of the city to change for the night we wouldn%26#39;t want to head back in. It was worth paying the extra money to stay right in the city. Good luck with your hotel!

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