Good coffee in NYC

Hi,

We will be coming to NYC for a month in May. We will be staying UWS at Jack and Judy%26#39;s for two weeks, then in Chelsea at 18th st near 8th ave for the last two.

Unfortunately we both need a good coffee(by which I mean espresso or cappucino, or latte) in the morning to get us going, and don%26#39;t particularly like starbucks.

Has anyone got any recommendations for these areas or anywhere near the tourist spots, eg museums, times square, etc.

I would really appreciate it any advice on this topic.

Em

Good coffee in NYC

I visit Manhattan each year and truly get the best consistency for great coffee fom Starbucks.

Good coffee in NYC

Great coffee on the Upper West side can be found at the Muffin Shop on Columbus between 70th and 71st on the West Side of the Street. We%26#39;ve been going for years and they have all that you need and more.

Chelsea had a great place on 22nd/8th called Big Cup but it closed....I%26#39;m sure someone from the area can give you a great place to go... but please, and I mean no offense to our friend in Portland, but no more starbuck recs. That is like suggesting the Olive Garden for good Italian and Pizza hut for a good slice.

I love NYC. But there are two things that you will have a hard time finding here: Good Mexican food (I used to live in the west coast and still dream of a spicy charred carne asada, and coffee) The best coffee you can get is by going straight to JFK and flying to Morrocco. I will agree with a prior poster (and mind you, us in NYC hate the corporate, but) Starbucks makes a good cup of java!

I would have thought with all the Italian immigrants that there would be some excellant espresso etc.

In Aust they brought the machines in and the cafe culture as just gone on from there. Very few people in Sydney or in Aust would drink driperlator (sic) coffee.

Are there any good italian cafes where you could get espresso with a panini?

Thanks for the responses. Re: Starbucks I find it overpriced and not that great. However I did get hooked on the hot chocolates when I was pregnant.

Em

Lots of places have espresso %26amp; cappucino.

Here are some recommendations if you are exploring these areas:

Rocco%26#39;s Pastry Shop, Bleecker Street off 6th Avenue in Greenwich Village, has wonderful Italian pastries and the above - love this place.

Same with Veniero%26#39;s - E. 11th Street off 1st Avenue in the East Village.

www.venierospastry.com

Little Italy - Ferrera%26#39;s

195 Grand Street

http://www.ferraracafe.com

Emoliash,

In Chelsea, besides the Can%26#39;t spit in the wind without hitting them

Starbucks there is Paradise Muffin (I think this is the name) on 8th ave between 16th and 17th sts. It is about 3 stores south of 17th on the west side of the street. You might also want to walk over to Chelsea Market one day 9th ave between 15th and 16th. They have some nice bakeries in there.

For Italian espresso I second the recomendations of

Veneiros, Roccos and Ferraros. I like all three of these.

Hi Emoliash.

I feel your pain. I will be in NYC in Oct and I%26#39;m already stressing that I won%26#39;t get a decent cup. Apologies to those who suggest it, but Starbucks doesn%26#39;t even come close to what I would call coffee (let the flaming begin!).

Now to answer your question - there was an article in the SMH a couple of months ago that discussed this very dilemma - I love how they%26#39;ve called it artisanal coffee - haha. I%26#39;ve copied the important bits (ie. the addresses) for you below. The bad news is that of those very few places listed, most are not in Manhattan.

Obviously, I%26#39;ve never had a coffee at any of these places, so for any of you that may have, feel free to give us a review.

And, Emoliash, I%26#39;d love to know how you get on with the coffee in NYC once you get back.

Mez.

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Ninth Street Espresso in the East Village earned the first ripple of recognition for New York鈥檚 coffee scene when it opened in 2000. Since then a handful of other top-flight shops have opened, including three in northwestern Brooklyn: Gimme!; the Oslo Coffee Company, also in Williamsburg; and, most recently, Caf茅 Grumpy. Oslo opened a second Williamsburg branch last month; Caf茅 Grumpy is building a second location in Manhattan, in Chelsea. Baristas like Dan Griffin, who recently left the celebrated coffee spot Albina Press in Portland, Ore., will be setting up shop soon in the West Village.

Where to get artisanal coffee in New York:

NINTH STREET ESPRESSO

700 East Ninth Street (Avenue C), East Village, (212) 358-9225.

GIMME! COFFEE

495 Lorimer Street (Powers Street), Williamsburg, Brooklyn; (718) 388-7771.

CAF茅 GRUMPY

193 Meserole Avenue (Diamond Street), Greenpoint, Brooklyn; (718) 349-7623.

OSLO COFFEE COMPANY

133-B Roebling Street (North Fourth Street) and 328 Bedford Avenue (South Third Street), Williamsburg, Brooklyn; (718) 782-0332.

Just around the corner from Jack %26amp; Judy%26#39;s, on the west side of Amsterdam between 80th %26amp; 81st, is Cafe con Leche. Incredible cafe con leche!

If you find yourself on the east side, stop by Rohr%26#39;s, on East. 85th, just east of 2nd Ave.

http://www.rohrs.com/

While you%26#39;re there, pick up something from the Two Little Red Hens Bakery, just around the corner, on 2nd Ave. between 85th-86th Streets.

http://www.twolittleredhens.com/

I would stick with the independent shops listed by the ';experts'; -STARBUCKS, IMO is overrated, overpriced and just awful/

In my experiences it is burnt, overly strong and is reminiscent of motor oil.

Poppa

For more great recos, here are two posts with more:

tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g60763-i5-k360613-鈥?/a> Somewhere_fun_for_coffee

tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g60763-i5-k414718-鈥?/a> Manhattan_s_best_coffee_shop-

(On second page)

Whew, glad Bettina came through (as usual) with a reco near your place!

Comment on ';Italian immigrant'; connection - def true, but a new chapter has emerged in NYC coffee development. In my experience these days, the best - and CHEAPEST - strongest and hottest coffee is from our more recent immigrants from Latin America.

Go into any Latino restaurant or cheap luncheonette (Dominican, Puerto Rican, etc.), and get amazing cafe con leche for $1- $2. (As a result of assimilation, they might also call it a ';cappucino'; nowadays, and some places are raising their prices.)

?Come se dice ';rocket fuel'; en espanol?

excel